Topic: Protests in Syria
MOSCOW, June 10 (RIA Novosti)
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Syria's main opposition group, the Syrian National Council (SNC), has elected a Kurdish activist as its new leader at a meeting in Istanbul, al Jazeera television reported.
Abdel Basset Sayda succeeds Burhan Ghalioun, who had presided over the the exiled SNC since its inception in August last year.
Sieda, 56, was the sole candidate for the three-month presidency.
His main task was to "restructure" the council, Sayda told journalists after a meeting of 33 members of the SNC's general secretariat on Saturday.
Opposition activists argue Sayda's election might help encourage more Kurds, who make up about 10 percent of Syria's 21-million population, to join the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad.
Meanwhile, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reiterated on Saturday his country's opposition to foreign military intervention in Syria, saying it could lead to a "catastrophic scenario" which would have "the gravest of consequences" for the entire region.
Speaking at the foreign minsitry in Moscow, Lavrov also repeated calls for an international conference to implement a UN-brokered peace plan for the country.
Russia has come under international pressure to take harder line on embattled Assad regime.
Russia has denied that it is protecting Assad or that it has any special interests in Syria, but has twice - along with China - vetoed UN resolutions against Damascus over what it calls a pro-rebel bias.
Moscow has, however, fully backed UN and Arab league envoy Kofi Annan's peace plan, which calls for the withdrawal of heavy weaponry from urban areas and a ceasefire to end 15-months of spiraling violence there.
The UN says over 9,000 people have died since the revolt against Assad's 11-year rule began last year.
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- bielecThis is really funny11:11, 10/06/2012A meeting of a "main Syrian opposition group" in Turkey. Why in Turkey? Why not in Syria?
And then, a Kurdish activist is elected a new leader. Why Kurdish? Why not a Syrian?
Isn't Turkey fighting Kurds in Northern Iraq and elsewhere? Just like isn't the U.S. fighting Al-Qaeda - elsewhere?
Nothing can be taken at face value anymore. Not even Al-Qaeda. It seems that there are at least two Al-Qaedas: - our Al-Qaeda and the other Al-Qaeda.
Same with all "opposition" groups, patriots, revolutionaries, rebels, criminals, bandits, terrorists, etc. Who is who really depends on who is talking.
- free_mind50(no title)14:08, 10/06/2012With A kurdish member at the helm, the goal would be to legitimize this movement to incite Syria's Kurdish population to start an uprising and revolt, this does not bode well for Turkey? If the SNC accomplishes its mission, Syria will be fractured as Iraq already is, the next in line will be Iran and the other middle eastern states that hold part of the old kurdustan, once those positions are consolidated, there will be a declaration of a Kurdish state, more aligned to the west. For Turkey to go along with this and give up a part of its territorial integrity means a deal was struck, in which Turkey will become a state of the EU on Par with France and Germany.
- bielecOne more question15:50, 10/06/2012The CIA World Factbook reads that the Syrian population consists of:
Kurds, Armenians, and other 9.7%"
I wonder how it is possible that a Kurd was "elected" to represent the "overwhelming majority" of the allegedly anti-Assad population of this country? It just does not seem realistic.
It shows that ethnic issues are being exploited by the West in order to establish a political umbrella and "legitimize" the criminal rebels, foreign mercenaries, terrorists, and death squads, sponsored by the U.S. and its allies.
This umbrella will then negotiate with the West on behalf of all Syrians. Ridiculous!
- cheruskMillions of Iraqi are refugees in Syria16:12, 10/06/2012Ocalan of the PKK was refugee in Syria till 1998. He is now jailed in a Marmara's prison.
- arsanlupinOr ...18:23, 10/06/2012Maybe he was the best-qualified candidate?
As for the location of the meeting: don't you think a meeting of the Syrian opposition leadership while inside the sphere of influence of the Syrian police and military would be an incredibly dangerous thing to do? Maybe?
- yao.lonLET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, CNN PRESENTS THIS STORY LIKE THIS: ASSAD TROOPS GO VILLAGE TO VILLAGE, GRABS CIVILIANS, TIE THEIR HANDS AND LEGS AND THEN KNIFE THEM... THEN THEY LEAVE AND ALLOW "REBELS" IN TO MAKE MOVIES ABOUT CRUEL ASSAD AND THEN UPLOAD THEM ONTO YOUTUBE OR EMAIL TO "MOST TRUSTED NAME IN NEWS"... YOU HONESTLY GOTTA BE REALLY HIGH OR STUPID TO BELIEVE THIS.20:16, 10/06/2012LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, CNN PRESENTS THIS STORY LIKE THIS:
ASSAD TROOPS GO VILLAGE TO VILLAGE, GRABS CIVILIANS, TIE THEIR HANDS AND LEGS AND THEN KNIFE THEM... THEN THEY LEAVE AND ALLOW "REBELS" IN TO MAKE MOVIES ABOUT CRUEL ASSAD AND THEN UPLOAD THEM ONTO YOUTUBE OR EMAIL TO "MOST TRUSTED NAME IN NEWS"...
YOU HONESTLY GOTTA BE REALLY HIGH OR STUPID TO BELIEVE THIS.
- Sirko"...the best candidate..." Hahahaha...!01:37, 11/06/2012"...the best candidate..." Hahahahaha...!!! 'Arslupin' yet again comes in with more nonsense, trivia and American Zionist propaganda. Of all the Syrian people a member of a small minority is the best candidate...but of course he is....the Empire says so. Not unlike Karzai their lackey in Afghanistan.
Also, they should meet in Turkey and should be afraid of the authorities because regardless of wherever one lives treason should be punishable by death...
Not so ridiculous...
The Iraqi Kurds are lackeys of the U.S.
They meet in Turkey because strategically it is next to Syria and it has worn the American Yoke since WW II and Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia and their masters the Zionist Americans are behind the entire mayhem in the Mid East and have been since the inception of the illegitimate state butchering the indigenous people of Palestine to create a bogus homeland for European Jewry. The over whelming majority of whom wanted no part of it. The entire conspiracy was concocted by American and expatriate German Zionists such as the Rothschilds.
Oh!!! Let's not forget that American Wart on the face of humanity, the Cold War dinosaur NATO...is also in on it obeying the commands of "The Evil Empire" to quote Reagan the Rat.
"YOU HONESTLY GOTTA BE REALLY HIGH OR STUPID TO BELIEVE THIS."
That is exactly dead on for most Americans have been fed such an overdose of propaganda through the Cold war that few have the background knowledge and the ability to analyze geopolitical issues rationally and independently. Their word is small, controlled and parochial. They are a very uninformed people on world issues because all the main stream media is controlled by the same Wackos who formulate American foreign policy and have stolen the life savings and the future of ordinary hard working Americans. Just dig into it and you'll find out that Plato (everything after Plato re society is a postscript" was correct when he said in his 'discourses', that the ordinary people can be turned into 'anthropoda' (human cattle) by propaganda and a lie.
Of course 'Arslupin' will dismiss this as 'Conspiracy Theory'....Hahahaha...!!!
- bielecA couple of comments07:37, 11/06/2012Sirko, don't be so hard on arsenlupin, he is just doing his job. Job always sucks.
To arsenlupin: -
You have no bloody idea what you're talking about. And you cannot read between the lines.
I know first hand that it is much easier to organize an "underground" meeting in the country than to cross the border there and back in large numbers.
And here is the trick - these people did not have to cross the border. They live in Turkey, where they were imported from other parts of the world by the CIA, MI6, Mossad, and other "friendly" helpers. They operate from Turkey. If you want to know where they came from, ask Hillary. She knows.
- arsanlupinI never said I did, bielec.05:21, 13/06/2012To bielec:
I never said I know anything for certain about this subject – that was why both of my very tentative ideas were posed as questions. Almost no one on this planet really knows what’s really going on in Syria because the Syrian government has barred foreigners’ entry – particularly foreign journalists. Last I heard that includes Russian journalists. The ideas were meant as possible suggestions, to invite polite and intelligent dialogue on those and other ideas. This because I am reading in the press (both Western and Eastern) thousands of refugees are getting into Lebanon, Turkey and Iraq, smuggling routes in the area are as busy now as they were a thousand years ago, and that like most of the world free passage can be bought for a high enough price. I am asking: does anyone here have credible 1st-hand knowledge of how porous the borders in the area are? Of what the UN monitors are seeing? Of what the Arab League is really doing? Please note the operative phrase here is “credible 1st-hand knowledge”. I admit what no one else on this forum is willing to admit: I don’t really know exactly what’s happening in Syria! But then again neither do any of you. Almost all of the governments on the planet are scrambling to try to find out what IS happening there. And please excuse me if I question (NOT dismiss!) the allegations that – like everything else that West-bashers say – absolutely EVERYTHING that happens in the world that the West-bashers dislike is automatically the fault of CIA, MI6, Mossad, or whoever is the bogeyman of the day. Are those agencies responsible for some of the bad things happening in the world? Most definitely YES – and they are wrong for doing so! Are they The Devil Incarnate or The Antichrist or The Greatest Danger to Humanity or any of the other apocalyptic agencies? Don’t be ridiculous! You all give them far too much credit! None of them are that competent – let alone that well staffed or financed! The only thing I am certain of is that such agencies know much more of the truth than any of us – so for any of us to proclaim WE KNOW THE ONLY TRUTH is the height of hubris. The real truth has to lie somewhere in between – but where??? I’m willing to admit I don’t know – are any of you out there willing to do the same? I’m trying to find a way to persuade those who post comments here to engage in a serious exchange of ideas – without the psychotic hatred and blind fury.
Silly me! Instead I am treated with the paranoia, vitriol, neuroses, profanity, psychoses, rudeness, delusions, Western-phobia, and apoplectic spittle-spewing of that Sicko Canadian Bolshevik! I must give him credit (if that’s the word): he has shown the ability to spew forth a torrent of foul manure greater than the animal husbandry industry of the entire planet combined! I’m sure Canada’s agricultural industry is appreciative …
I disagree with some opinions regarding Ukrainian identity as being actually Russian by supplying the census data of Ukraine, Russia, Canada, USA, and Brazil. In 5 countries alone 42,138,000 people say: “I am Ukrainian – I am NOT Russian!” I’m not saying it – they are, and that was all I said! What do I get? I get abuse, vitriol, bigotry, and apoplexy.
I question why someone who purportedly has one great-grandparent out of eight who emigrated from whatever he considers Russia (and probably never set foot in the former Soviet Union himself) has the unmitigated gall to tell a current Russian citizen and resident that HE knows how their country should be run better than real Russians do, and the real Russian is a fool and probably a Western agent for daring to disagree with him, heaping upon him abuse, scorn, and vitriol for daring to disagree with the self-appointed EXPERT ON ALL THINGS RUSSIAN! Oh, please!
I question the success of a Russian ICBM test that the Interfax news agency says was launched from Kapustin Yar for a target in the Sary Shagan range (2000 km east) but was clearly visible in Syria and Israel – 2000 km south-WEST. I question the success of a test that was video-recorded by many people in Syria and Israel as spinning like a cartwheel – then disappearing. (Exactly the same whirling behavior was witnessed in Norway in 2009 – of a submarine-launched missile in the White Sea, to a target in the Russian Far East. That was a failure.) From 2000 km an object would have to be 300 km high to be over the apparent horizon (the formula is Distance (in km) equals 3.57 times the square root of Height (in meters)). But why would a missile so far away be visible from the wrong direction – unless it was heading in the wrong direction? Someone who boasts of two degrees in the sciences should know why no one in Canada can see a rocket launch from the Kennedy Space Center (2000 km from Canada) unless it was for a polar orbit and thus moving towards Canada – right? Same thing - but Noooooooooooo – all I get is ridicule, vitriol, and abuse.
I’m sorry bielec, but I think that many of the posters here are far too full of themselves, and either unwilling or unable to admit the possibility that they don’t know everything, and without that information they cannot give a reasoned, logical response. The comments are far too lacking in real factual data – and far too heavy on ridicule, vitriol, abuse, and pontificating. Accusations of NATO, the USA, and/or “The West” being responsible for everything from the disappearance of the Aral Sea to sunspots, is also getting a little old. They are nowhere near that competent, as is proved by their many major failures and embarrassments. How can such countries be all-knowing invasive secret rulers of the world, while simultaneously suffering so many humiliating failures for all the world to see? Face it – you can’t have it both ways.
If only more people would be more informative and open-minded to possibilities other than grasping their own pre-conceived notions like a drowning man …. A young man once said: “Some people see things as they are and say – why? I dream of things that never were and say – why not?” Sorry – but if idealism is dead on this planet, than we are all better off dead.
But that’s just my view on things. Silly me …
- bielecThis guy...07:45, 11/06/2012... Abdel Basset Sayda looks as if he is facing a firing squad. Well, maybe that is what is coming his way. You can never be sure.
Now, he is the leader of all the terrorists, mercenaries, criminals, bandits, and traitors responsible for all the atrocities in Syria.
The Syrian government, together with its allies, should make a concerted effort to capture him and bring him to Syria in order to face justice.
- SirkoExcellent Post Bielec08:25, 12/06/2012"Sirko, don't be so hard on arsenlupin, he is just doing his job. Job always sucks."
Hahahahaha...!!! Here! Here!....Touche!!!.... Otlichno!!! and then some.
His silly opinions on world issues do not irk me much but his attack on me and my ancestry I will not tolerate. I have posted my ancestral name, my ancestors, my occupation, etc. and I am proud of all of those, for a good man has nothing to fear from the truth for it is never ones enemy. However, one with an hidden agenda always hides from the truth, attempts to create discord where there is non much like his pals in the U.S. regime and NATO.
It is also mind boggling how anyone can push that crap and expect sentient, intelligent people to buy it. There are some very good and well informed thinkers on this site.
However you may be right for he and the rest of the disciples of evil in history simply obey their masters and are not independent thinkers.
Abdel Sayda is definitely facing a firing squad as is Karzai in Afghanistan when NATO is defeated.
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