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No Fuel in Russia For French-Built Warship - Deputy PM

Topic: Russia's purchase of French Mistral-class warship

French-made Mistral-class amphibious assault vessel
17:25 05/02/2013
Originally posted at 16:29.
Tags: Mistral, Dmitry Rogozin, Russia

MOSCOW, February 5 (RIA Novosti) - Russia does not produce the type of fuel necessary for the French-made Mistral-class amphibious assault vessels it has ordered, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said Tuesday.

The Mistral class are powered by electric motors supplied by diesel-powered turbogenerators, according to naval-technology.com. Diesel fuel can suffer from a condition known as waxing or gelling in cold conditions, causing it to clog up fuel injection systems, naval systems engineers say. The condition can be corrected by use of certain chemical additives, or pre-heating the fuel, as is done in some cars.

“Probably, our chemists will prepare some special additives to solve this problem,” Rogozin, who oversees Russia’s military industry, told reporters on Tuesday. In January, Rogozin criticized the 1.2 billion euro deal to buy the ships, saying they would not be able to operate in cold weather, but did not then specify the reason.

The problem probably arose because Europe uses slightly different, cleaner diesel than Russian marine diesels, said an oil refinery engineer in London who spoke to RIA Novosti on condition of anonymity.

“The Russians could probably make the right grade fuel at a refinery of theirs somewhere, but then you have the problem of specially transporting and storing it,” he said. “You couldn’t just stick that fuel in the existing storage system and expect it to be clean.”

Using Russian-made fuel in the Mistrals might possibly cause minor damage over long periods, or invalidate the engines’ warranties, he said.

Specialists from both countries will discuss issues concerning the Mistral ships, including the fuel problem, during bilateral military talks to be held on February 14-15.

Rogozin said insufficient scientific advice had been taken in Russia prior to the latest decisions about purchases of arms and military equipment. “The devil is in the detail, so now we are looking into the problems that we might face when using those ships,” Rogozin said.

Russia signed the deal in 2011 for its two Mistral-class ships, the first of which is due for delivery in 2014 and the second in 2015. The defense minister at that time was Anatoly Serdyukov, who was sacked in November 2011 after being tainted by a corruption scandal involving his ministry.

Rogozin repeated Russia would stick to its commitments under the deal, despite his critical comments about Mistral.

“I want to stress out again Russia will fulfil all its obligations mentioned in the signed contracts, so those worries which our French friends have should only be little ones – at least over the ships on the French wharves,” Rogozin said.

 

Updated to include comment from refinery engineer about Russian diesel fuel.

 

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  • moistSince the technology and knowhow...
    16:57, 05/02/2013
    ...was bought along with it, im certain Russian experts will put that to good use...

    As for those already being built, station them in Tartus!
  • tec123No surprise at all.
    17:19, 05/02/2013
    The West all time out fox Russia so this comes as no surprise.
    The new Secretary of state is coming to do the same give Russia a covered chocolate bar but with lemon inside.
  • flyer19999Mistrel
    19:40, 05/02/2013
    Replace French diesel engines with Russian engines. Russia does produce diesel engines for their trucks, tanks, and naval vessels.
  • alexk2(no title)
    01:56, 07/02/2013
    Where were all the pro-VPK geniuses (Rogozin) when the deal was being signed?
  • mishkaWhat do they plan to do with them? Playground for the kids of sailors?!?!
    05:14, 07/02/2013
    Shto, shto?!?!.........

    Does he really mean when the ships will be delivered to Russian navy they will be unable to move and they will be docked forever to a port like "Arora"? What they will do ships without fuel? did not anybosy know this reality when the sihps ordered to France? Even helicopters KA-52 have been ordered to be deployed in those ships. Will the ships be a non moving landsing platform like an island for flight tests for pilot training? Is not it too late to realize such an important problem to operate the sihps?

    It s shocking.

    It s like a bad joke.

    It s scandal.
  • rodaFuel for MISTRAL
    22:33, 17/03/2013
    The fuel problem for MISTRAL can be solved by using ECOPAR www.ecopar.se.
    ECOPAR is liquified natural gas between -45 to +200 degrees C. Very resistant when storaged, extremly environment frendly.
    ECOPAR can be used in all types of diesel engines and jet engines. Certified EN 590 for diesel engines, also certified for jet engines.
    ECOPAR has low emissions i.e 90% lower amount of partikles, lower CO2 and NOx compared with high energy content
    MISTRAL can use one fuel for ship, armed vehicles and helicopters by using ECOPAR

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